They'll throw hundreds of millions at actor salaries without blinking, but pinch pennies on historical research down to the hundred-thousand-won level?? Why does accuracy feel like such a burden to them? The time and work that goes into proper research — why is THAT what gets disrespected? This is the part that actually breaks my heart 샤갈 ㅠ
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배우들의 출연료는 몇 억을 아낌없이 지불하면서 역사 고증 비용은 몇 십만으로 왜 퉁치려 하시는지.. 왜 그리도 아까워하시는지. 프로그램 제작을 위해서 고증에 드는 시간은 왜 그리도 무시하시는지. 이 부분이 제일 마음 아프다 샤갈 ㅠ
emotionaltheqoo
Honestly, if you want an actual apology out of them, you have to go after the sponsors and the actors' advertisers and make this loud enough to hit the news. That's the only language they understand. Joseon Exorcist didn't apologize until fans burned it down first. lol
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솔직히 이거 사과하려면 협찬사 공격하고 배우들 광고주 공격해서 일크게 키워서 뉴스뜨게해야됨 안그럼 사과안함ㅋㅋ 조선구마사도 그런 뒤에야 사과했는데
insightfultheqoo
I've watched this from episode one, and this isn't a research problem — it FEELS intentional. And apparently even when they do consult professors and experts, production doesn't take the advice wholesale — they cherry-pick what they want. Which means they KNEW, and chose to direct it this way anyway.
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이 드라마 첨부터 봤는데 고증의 문제가 아님 의도가 심어져 있는 느낌 그리고 교수나 전문가한테 자문 받아도 제작연출이 그걸 다 받아먹는 거 아니래 그중에서 취사선택 한대더라 그니깐 알면서도 그렇게 연출하고 싶음 하는 거
insightfultheqoo
Here's the thing though — this isn't actually about whether they spent money on research or not. You could ask any child: the Korean cheer is '만세,' right? So airing '천세' instead wasn't ignorance. That was a choice. (And I genuinely had never even heard '천세' before this drama, for the record.)
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그런데 이 드라마는 고증에 돈을 쓰고 안쓰고의 문제가 아닌듯. 어린애한테 물어봐도 만세!!! 아냐? 그런데 굳이 천세로 쓰고 방영한 건 고의지. (나 진짜 천세 천천세는 첨들어)
insightfultheqoo
I figured professor consultation fees must be astronomically expensive — turns out they're not. We're talking a few hundred thousand won per episode, max ₩1–2 million for a full engagement. Even across multiple sessions it doesn't crack ₩10 million total. And this production was out here bragging about their record-breaking ₩30 BILLION budget... and couldn't spare ₩10 million for accuracy?
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교수들 자문료가 비싼가 했는데 그것도 아니래. 회당 몇십만원 수준이고 비싸봐야 1~2백 정도라 여러 회 받는데도 천만원은 안 넘는다던데... 예산은 창사 이래 역대급 300억이라고 자랑하면서 그 예산에서 단돈 몇백~천만원도 못 써?
insightfultheqoo
I got angry that the drama erased the Japanese colonial period from history entirely, and then fans defended it saying 'they removed a dark chapter, what's wrong with that?' ...I gave up after seeing that.
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일제강점기도 없는 역사라서 말이 되냐고 화냈더니 팬들이 안 좋은 역사 지워줬는데 뭐가 문제냐고 쉴드치는 거 보고 걍 포기함
emotionaltheqoo
Apparently what happens is: they bring in a consultant, the consultant lists everything that's wrong, production goes 'noted~' and fixes nothing — then keeps the consultant's name in the credits. So now the consultant starts getting calls from other history professors going 'what kind of consulting were you doing, exactly??' lol No wonder academics don't want to touch these projects anymore lmao
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고증 자문 불러서 뭐뭐 틀렸다 하면 아네~ 하고 안고친다며ㅋㅋㅋ그리고 크레딧에서는 자문으로 이름 올려서 다른 역사교수들한테 전화와서 욕먹는데ㅋㅋㅋ너는 대체 무슨 고증을 그렇게 하냐며.. 그래서 대부분 고증자문 안하려고 한다던데ㅋㅋㅋ
insightfultheqoo
So out of that ₩30 billion budget — how much went to actor fees exactly? How much per episode are the leads pulling? Because the sets and direction look genuinely cheap and embarrassing. Did they literally just dump the entire budget into salaries?
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저 300억 중에 배우 출연료 얼마일까?
주연배우 회당 얼마 받으려나
아니 근데 세트나 연출도 완전 개허접하던데
진짜 돈을 출연료로 몰빵했나?
insightfultheqoo
A production that brags about spending billions on historical research is infinitely cooler than one that brags about actor salaries.
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배우한테는 몇억 줬다고 하는 드라마보다 고증에 몇억 줬다는 드라마가 더 멋있음
insightfultheqoo
Did they do their historical research on ChatGPT???
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고증을 챗지피티로 하냐고
funnytheqoo
Oh. OH. I just connected the dots. This is New Right historiography.
I went deep into New Right theory once — their key argument is basically 'if Japan hadn't colonized Korea, it would've just become a Chinese vassal state anyway.'
So they erased Japanese colonial rule AND used the Chinese court chant '천세' instead of Korean '만세.'
That's... that's not an accident. What the f***?
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아 나 이제 이해감
뉴라이트 사관이엇구나
뉴라이트사관 한때 찐하게 공부했는데 일본이 식민지안했으면 어차피 중국속국이었을것이다가 중요한포인트임
그래서 일본식민지배 지우고 천세천세쓴거구나
시발?
insightfultheqoo
We genuinely need a formal Historical Research Institute. Because this keeps happening over and over, and productions have learned there are no consequences — so they just cast a famous name, lean on the fandom to carry it, and coast. It's so transparent at this point.
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진짜 고증연구소 만들어야돼 진짜 한번 두번 반복되니 눈치도 안보고 유명배 캐스팅해서 팬덤으로 밀어붙이려는거 진짜 너무 티남
insightfultheqoo
They made a drama with zero integrity, the actors walked away with billions, and everyone ELSE gets to deal with the stress and fallout.
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근본없는 드라마 만들어서 배우들은 수십억 챙기고 스트레스는 다른 사람들만 받음
savagetheqoo
Korean media watched [that massive global hit] become a worldwide phenomenon and apparently learned absolutely nothing from it. At this point we might actually need government-level regulation to force quality standards.
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우리나라 미디어는 케데헌 히트친 거 보면서 느끼는게 1도 없나봐 정부 차원에서도 좀 더 강력한 규제가 필요해 보이는
insightfultheqoo
What I appreciate most is that this conversation isn't just rage — people are actually proposing where to go from here and what the real solution looks like.
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그냥 비난만 하지 않고 나아갈 방향과 대안을 제시한 것도 좋다
insightfultheqoo
What were they doing for THREE YEARS of production?? Carefully, meticulously, shadily weaving pro-Japan sentiment and Chinese historical revisionism into the script?? 큰별쌤, thank you for speaking up!!
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3년동안 도대체 뭐 한거임? 존나 치밀하게 그리고 음침하게 일뽕 동북 곡정을 녹여서 대본을 쓴건가?
큰별쌤 감사해요!!
emotionaltheqoo
A Historical Accuracy Institute would genuinely be a win-win-win: history gets protected, Korean culture gets properly showcased to the world, AND productions get a legitimate body to consult — so when something goes wrong, there's an actual process. Everyone benefits.
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진짜 고증연구소 만들어주면 역사도 지키고 홍보하고 제작진은 문제생겼을때 떠넘길수도 있고 얼마나좋아
insightfultheqoo
Pull it. Cancel the whole thing. Stop letting this historical distortion embarrass our entire country on the world stage.
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폐기해 역사왜곡 드라마로 나라 얼굴에 먹칠하지말고
savagetheqoo
We genuinely need a Historical Accuracy Research Institute — like, yesterday. Korean content isn't just for Korean audiences anymore. The whole world is watching. Getting history right isn't optional now. 큰별쌤, we're so grateful you said this.
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역사물고증연구소 너무 필요할 것 같다..! 우리 콘텐츠가 이제는 우리만의 것이 아닌데 고증에 더 중요하게 다루어야 할 것 같아! 큰별쌤 너무 감사해요
wholesometheqoo
Even if you're writing fantasy — even if your characters are fictional royals in an alternate history — there are still lines you don't cross.
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대군부인이 아무리 판타지라고 할지라도 넘지 말아야되는 선이 있는거임
insightfultheqoo